Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby curt » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:07 pm

It was mentioned to me that a vote on Sheila's COLA request was not inappropriate, even though she was not re-appointed, because it would have applied retroactively to her pay going back to 1/1/11.
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby Sheila » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:58 am

http://www.eagletribune.com/newhampshir ... s-her-post

"Danville animal control officer loses her post"

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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby shawn_oneil » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:22 am

Sheila wrote:http://www.eagletribune.com/newhampshire/x930492983/Danville-animal-control-officer-loses-her-post
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ET Article wrote:O'Neil said selectmen are not obligated to give a reason when deciding not to reappoint a town employee. He said Johannesen is welcome to address the issue at a future selectmen's meeting.


If you decide that you want to discuss this in public please contact the BOS office to get on our agenda. This is not a Delegate Session topic.
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby Sheila » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:30 am

Mr. Oneil, As I have told you in many previous times, you were not my boss I reported to the Chief. I did what the Chief told me. In your previous posts on here you told me to do as I did on Monday night in a delegate session.

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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby C L » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:46 am

shawn_oneil wrote:If you decide that you want to discuss this in public please contact the BOS office to get on our agenda. This is not a Delegate Session topic.
Shawn



But Selectmen's Chairman Shawn O'Neil said the decision to end her employment with the town this week was unrelated to their clashes over the animal control budget.

"The budget had nothing to do with it," O'Neil said Tuesday, a day after the five-member board voted unanimously not to reappoint Johannesen after seven years on the job. "Every one of them made the decision for their own reasons."
No specific reason was given, and O'Neil said in an interview he could not comment further because it was a personnel decision.


Personnel or Personal?

Just wondering
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby SBinRockrimmon » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:53 am

C L wrote:Personnel or Personal?

Just wondering


I have a hard time believing that Shawn has total influence over the board members**. This was a unanimous decision, I agree with Curt that this is a good example as to why it's better to have 5 board members than 3.

So far we have only heard one side of the story and I doubt we will ever hear the other side.


**I would hope the other 4 board members are smart enough to think for themselves.**
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby curt » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:55 pm

TomBillbroughJr wrote:Sbin, you're very much off topic. Could you direct your future "don't care what you have to say" comments to me in a private message so as not to stray away from the focus of this thread.

*** Upon Curt's request I have edited out a comment directed towards another member. The comment was far from gratuitous, but for the sake of the integrity of this forum, I will begrudging censor myself. However, I still hope my request came to fruition and there is a wad of paper with a new, more fitting home.


Thank you.
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby Sheila » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:43 pm

curt wrote:The town web site shows Sheila's appointment as expiring in 2010.

If I were in this situation, I would ask the BOS for a public explanation of why they did not reappoint me.
If the BOS had already taken a vote not to reappoint Sheila before she spoke with them, they should not have voted her a raise. Either they should have declined any response, or they should have immediately offered her a nonpublic session to discuss the situation. Then Sheila could have gone along, or she could have declined and asked them to explain in public.


Curt, my guess is that they decided at the non-public meeting before the meeting started with the Cheif. Let me tell you I was standing right by the door when he came out of the meeting. He stood there chatting with a few other residents there and I said to him I am going to do what you said I should do, talk to them about my cola, he said ok. The meeting started and the rest is history. Why would you go back before them again? Chief Parsons said not a word during that meeting when I was discussing it. When you view the meeting you will see the body language on every one of them. It was the next day when I came into the PD to check my in box and messages when he asked if I had a minute. He stated the Selectmen did not re-appoint me last night. I asked him what does that mean I am done? He said yes....I said right now and he said yes.......that was the end of the conversation. The poor admin had no clue as to what had just happened. She wished me a good day see you later in the most pleasant way, that is her everyday. It was not till I said no, I am done that she jump up to find out what happened. Was that fair to her as well to find out two employees are done? Is this a way to let a person go who has put in alot of her own time to this town? Although, I have to say at least mine was not by a phone call as the 11 yr vetern police officer was given his information. But who's to say what the Chief would have done if I had not happened to pop in phone call? Or a post-it on my check who knows.

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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO after 7 years

Postby shawn_oneil » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:11 am

curt wrote:If I were in this situation, I would ask the BOS for a public explanation of why they did not reappoint me.


ET Article wrote:O'Neil said selectmen are not obligated to give a reason when deciding not to reappoint a town employee. He said Johannesen is welcome to address the issue at a future selectmen's meeting.


shawn_oneil wrote:If you decide that you want to discuss this in public please contact the BOS office to get on our agenda. This is not a Delegate Session topic.
Shawn


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Recent SOD moderator changes to posts within this forum

Postby speakou » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:48 am

The Moderators have decided to remove/edit some language where indicated. Shawn recused himself and was not part of the discussion because of the nature of the subject matter.

We don't like interfering but we will from now on if those posting cannot be respectful of each other.
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO a

Postby ebakenoza » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:52 am

here ,here , in this present expletive deleted spewing world, civility should still count for something :D
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO a

Postby TomBillbroughJr » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:34 am

Curt,
For the sake of consistency, I would like every post edited where I have been called called "arrogant", "immature", "ignorant", and so on. My feelings were extremely hurt and I found it to be very disrespectful. Or am I the only one whose posts will be edited?
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO a

Postby SBinRockrimmon » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:25 am

TomBillbroughJr wrote:Curt,
For the sake of consistency, I would like every post edited where I have been called called "arrogant", "immature", "ignorant", and so on. My feelings were extremely hurt and I found it to be very disrespectful. Or am I the only one whose posts will be edited?


I welcome the changes and will offer more suggestions based on what I have seen on other forums....

I would have gone even further with the editing of this thread including deleting some of the banter between TBJR and I. The posts related to the editing changes (both good and bad) I would move to the appropriate thread topic. I wouldn't ask if all agree to having it moved I would just move it. Perhaps a courtesy PM sent indicating it was moved. Now I will continue further on a more related thread here.

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P.S. - For the record I don't think Curt edited your posts.
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO a

Postby TomBillbroughJr » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:22 pm

This is absolute nonsense. I have been called "arrogant", "immature", "ignorant", and several other "disrespectful" things, by at least two of the moderators of this site. One of the moderators has addressed one person in Town as a "vile woman". Now, for some reason, we have to censor language that wouldn't even be censored on daytime, cable television. Some of the most disrespectful people on this forum are now pissing and moaning about being respectful, and it is beyond hypocritical. I have been chastised for my relative "youth" before on this site, but this is taking it too far. Some of you need to get off of your high horses. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Furthermore, if you have so many great ideas for this forum, maybe you should take some initiative and start your own forum, where you can censor and deny membership to anyone that disagrees with you.

"P.s." Some of you need to set aside a couple of hours and throw on a John-Wayne-western, or perhaps a Bruce Willis movie if you're on the younger side, and imagine what it is like to not be so sensitive.
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Re: Miserable (removed by moderator) at Town Hall fire ACO a

Postby TomBillbroughJr » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:28 pm

And for "(removed by moderator)"s sake, can we at at least use brackets ("[,]") like the rest of the literary world to denounce our gratuitous, hypocritical edits?
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