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Court postings judgments posting

Postby Sheila » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:17 pm

Since were posting some of the court postings on our town website and SOD. The town should post all of them. When are we posting the Luna vs Maria Hill case. You post one you post the all........

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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby curt » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:36 pm

No objection from me.
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby SBinRockrimmon » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:50 pm

I know this was discussed at the BOS meeting. I'm not sure a decision was made as for past court judgments. The thought was it may be difficult to go back any length of time. This pretty much coincided with discussion as to whether or not to make ALL correspondence public once the case is over. There was concern (speculation) that the attorney may not want all discussions posted publicly, and that posting all documents would overload the website committee.

I think the end result was that moving forward to only post final judgments, with the possibility of posting final judgments from the past 2 or 3 years.
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby Sheila » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:25 pm

I think postings of any court judgments is in POOR taste to this town. If someone really wants to read what happened in any court you can get the information yourself. Airing ones dirty laundry does not below on the Town's own personel website.

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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby shawn_oneil » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:13 am

Sheila wrote:Since were posting some of the court postings on our town website and SOD. The town should post all of them. When are we posting the Luna vs Maria Hill case. You post one you post the all........

Sheila


I would have no objection as well. The Town website is the only location that they would reside at because it is owned by the Town. SOD has no jurisdiction with respect to the Town. The issue is logistics.

My philosophy has always been that if you can walk out of the Town with a piece of information because it is considered a 'public' document then it should be a candidate for public posting. The reality is that we are a small Town with a small staff and making this happen is not realistically practical.

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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby shawn_oneil » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:24 am

Sheila wrote:Since were posting some of the court postings on our town website and SOD. The town should post all of them. When are we posting the Luna vs Maria Hill case. You post one you post the all........
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Sheila wrote:I think postings of any court judgments is in POOR taste to this town. If someone really wants to read what happened in any court you can get the information yourself. Airing ones dirty laundry does not below on the Town's own personel website.
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These two statement contradict each other.

It is not airing out our dirty laundry. It is presenting to the Town residents the Town's business that has been conducted that was ultimately paid through Town taxation. The documents are the facts either good, bad, or ugly. It is about transparency and should not be precluded to just court cases. See my comment above about any public document being available on-line.

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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby shawn_oneil » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:27 am

SBinRockrimmon wrote:I know this was discussed at the BOS meeting. I'm not sure a decision was made as for past court judgments. The thought was it may be difficult to go back any length of time. This pretty much coincided with discussion as to whether or not to make ALL correspondence public once the case is over. There was concern (speculation) that the attorney may not want all discussions posted publicly, and that posting all documents would overload the website committee.

I think the end result was that moving forward to only post final judgments, with the possibility of posting final judgments from the past 2 or 3 years.


SBin,
You hit a lot of the talking points. Good summary!
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby SBinRockrimmon » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:46 am

Sheila wrote:I think postings of any court judgments is in POOR taste to this town. If someone really wants to read what happened in any court you can get the information yourself. Airing ones dirty laundry does not below on the Town's own personel website.

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I have to disagree. The court judgments aren't plastered on the front page of the town website. You have to dig a little to find them. Yes you can get the information yourself, but it is far easier if it is available online. Nobody is forced into reading the judgments.

I hear many gripes about too many non-public meetings and the lack of transparency. Perhaps this explains SOME of the reason for non-public sessions. I find it amusing that people complain about non-public meetings, yet none of us have any idea what was being discussed. I guess I just don't understand how someone can complain about something without even knowing the subject matter.

I applaud the BOS for at least making the attempt to allow the residents easy access to the documents once they can be made public.
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby Sheila » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:29 am

Mr. Oneil, After thinking on the subject more, I changed my mind on the posting of the court stuff on the town web site. It is airing dirty laundry. You want to post up on SOD thats fine, but the town's web site should be a postitive outlook for this town. Every town has dirty laundry but you don't post it and advertise it.

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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby russh » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:52 am

I personally want to see more of these, and it was my suggestion to go back in time a few years, although it does sound like a ton of work, so it may take a while to accomplish. I believe that the town web site is a location for factual publication, not a location for a slanted position, ( either positive or negative ). The facts are simple, and don't represent any position, they simply are.

What’s the adage? “It’s easier to remember the truth than it is to remember a lie”

I want to see a continued effort moving forward to post more factual information as it becomes public, no slant, just the facts.

You don’t see me chime up very often here, but when it’s in support of full disclosure of factual information, I will always be in full support. Even if it’s detrimental to me.
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby Sheila » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:21 am

So on this subject would this not include the NH Police Standards Council minutes of March 23, 2010
http://www.pstc.nh.gov/Mar232010.pdf or is this just court judgments postings? Just curious where this board is going to draw the lines.

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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby timd » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:03 am

June 5, 2011
A who's who of sue
Danville posts lawsuits involving town online

By Doug Ireland
direland@eagletribune.com

DANVILLE — It's not often a small town sets a precedent by doing something bigger communities haven't tried to do.

Or even considered trying to do.

On Friday, Danville started posting its lawsuits on the town website.

Residents can now see who has sued the town and why. They will also see who the town has sued.

Selectmen's Chairman Shawn O'Neil said selectmen, who voted unanimously in favor of the idea Tuesday, are only interested in making sure public information can be easily accessed.

"It's a direction I always felt was needed — transparency is a big thing," O'Neil said. "If it's public information, then it should be on the website. I'm happy that the board embraced it."

Some believe the town is breaking new ground, saying they know of no other community that posts lawsuits on its website.

"I don't think I've heard of the practice in the past," said Steve Fournier, a member of the New Hampshire Municipal Management Association's executive committee.

Neither has Bill Letsky, vice president of Virtual Towns and Schools, a Maynard, Mass., company that has developed websites for 300 communities across New England.

"To be honest with you, it's the first one I've heard about — it's very unusual," Letsky said.

Fournier said it's a good idea but not something most, if any, towns have considered.

"I just don't think it's been discussed," he said. "I'm assuming that if any city or town posts public information, it's a good thing."

But any community that decides to post this information should not selectively choose what lawsuits to make available, said Fournier, also the town administrator for North Hampton.

"While it's always good to let the public know what's going on, you have to make sure the information is fair and balanced," he said.

The town will only post resolved cases, O'Neil said. Although the two posted were decided in the town's favor, O'Neil said he has no problem putting any suit on the website — even if Danville loses the case. At least one other case against the town is still pending, he said.

"We have these two fresh ones that got a buzz in town and people want to know about," O'Neil said.

One of the two posted lawsuits involved the dismissal in December of a case brought by resident Wanda Cote, who was acquitted in an animal cruelty case in 2008. She claimed the town violated her right to privacy during the investigation.

The second suit was a claim filed against former police officer Sean St. Onge, who violated his three-year contract with Danville by leaving after only 22 months for a job in another town, O'Neil said. The town sought compensation for about $5,500 in training expenses.

A settlement with St. Onge was reached in March and he paid the town $4,000, O'Neil said.

O'Neil first proposed posting lawsuits in 2006 but failed to receive support from colleagues, who didn't think it was worth the trouble. He's not worried about any public criticism, especially from people named in the lawsuits who think they are being unfairly targeted.

"It is always nice for the community to see what decision the board decided to take at the time," he said. "Maybe some people will be embarrassed, but so what?"

The lawsuits can be seen under "documents," on the town website, townofdanville.org.
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby momof3 » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:30 am

[quote][/quote]But any community that decides to post this information should not selectively choose what lawsuits to make available, said Fournier, also the town administrator for North Hampton.


It looks like Shawn is being selective and only picking lawsuits that he feels that the Town of Danville "won" on!!!!!! What about the Marie Hill case Shawn??? Balony when you say it is to old or to far back to post????
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby TomBillbroughJr » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:26 pm

"It's a direction I always felt was needed — transparency is a big thing," O'Neil said. "If it's public information, then it should be on the website. I'm happy that the board embraced it."


Must have been difficult saying that with a straight face.
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Re: Court postings judgments posting

Postby curt » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:23 am

BOS 5/31/11 discussion starts at 2:51
http://vimeo.com/24646235
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