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Re: School Security

Postby SBinRockrimmon » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:30 am

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. - Thomas Jefferson

Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: School Security

Postby ebakenoza » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:22 am

deflect.....distract........never let a crisis go to waste.......sound familiar?
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Re: School Security

Postby C L » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:40 am

I'm not going to get into the gun control debate here.

But as DMH stated in this thread, "
dmh wrote: It is not the world of our childhood.
It is not the world of our childhood.[/quote]

And that's the truth, once we come to terms with that, like every other aspect of society has (i.e. Banks, Jewelry Stores, Sporting events, the list goes on...) We'll get a better handle on how to protect our most valuable asset.

I'm guessing (and please correct me if I'm wrong) but the police officer in the high school (like HS's all over the country) is (mostly) used to protect the students and faculty from themselves not so much to offer a defensive/security point at entry as it would be if they were posted at a middle or even elementary school.

As a parent of kids in the middle school I have no problem with a (well trained) armed gourd at the front door of the school as well as a "buzz in" secure door boundary of some sort.

Unfortunately the Sandy Hook incident is part of a "one upping" by mentally unstable people and banning anything isn't going to stop the wannabe's currently looking to make history.
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Re: School Security

Postby Rob C » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:10 pm

CNN wrote:TRENDING: Poll: Gun control that Americans support

Posted by
CNN Political Unit

Washington (CNN) – One month after the deadly shootings at an elementary school in Connecticut, a new national poll indicates that a majority of Americans support a number of gun control proposals. But the survey points to wide partisan, gender, and educational divides over some proposals.

According to a Pew Research Center poll, 85% of the public backs making private gun sales and purchases at gun shows subject to background checks, with comparable support across party lines. And the poll indicates that 80% favor laws to prevent mentally ill people from purchasing guns, with broad support from Democrats, Republicans and independent voters.

The poll's Monday release comes one month after 27 people, including 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School, were killed in Newtown, Connecticut by a gunman, who then shot himself to death.

Two-thirds of people questioned in the survey say they support creating a federal database to track gun sales, but there's a partisan divide, with 84% of Democrats and only 49% of Republicans favoring the proposal.

Fifty-five percent favor a ban on assault style weapons, 54% back a ban on high capacity ammunition clips, and 53% support a ban on on-line ammunition sales, but again there's a wide partisan divide between Democrats and Republicans on these proposals.

According to the poll, nearly two-thirds support putting armed security guards or police in more schools, but only four in ten say arming more teachers and school officials with guns is a good idea.

By a 51%-45% margin, Americans say it's more important to control gun ownership than to protect gun rights. This is virtually unchanged from Pew poll that was conducted in the days following the Newtown, Connecticut shootings.

Men are divided on this question, while a solid majority of women say it's more important to control gun ownership. There's also a sizable gender gap over a ban on semi-automatic weapons, with two-thirds of women supporting such a move and men divided.

The survey also highlights an educational divide. Fewer than half of college graduates support a proposal to put armed guards or police in more schools, while three-quarters of those with no more than a high school education favor the idea.

The Pew Research Center poll was conducted January 9-13, with 1,502 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.
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Re: School Security

Postby SBinRockrimmon » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:13 am

The United States is a republic based on the Constitution, not a democracy. If something is unconstitutional it really doesn't matter what the majority of the people say they are for or against. If you want to remove gun amend the constitution (good luck) otherwise drop it. Rob, why don't you start a thread about gun control and post your BS statistics there? I started this thread about SCHOOL SECURITY. As a SB member all you have done is confirm my belief that the public school system is run by liberals who do not care about either the constitution or rational discussion.

87% of the people believe that 96% of statistics are made up.
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Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: School Security

Postby Rob C » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:17 pm

SBinRockrimmon wrote:As a SB member all you have done is confirm my belief that the public school system is run by liberals who do not care about either the constitution or rational discussion.

This statement couldn't be further from the truth in many ways.

I'm one of nine folks on the Board and I'm not posting here as a representative of the Board but simply as a parent and resident of Danville.

I believe a rational discussion has been happening here and I don't believe anyone is challenging the 2nd amendment or presenting anything that would be considered unconstitutional.

You did post originally about school security. This was following the CT tragedy. I can guarantee you there wouldn't be 28 dead if the gunman in this case had a knife, or hammer, or car, or anything else! The fact that 28 people died because he had a gun is absolutely germane to this discussion as is trying to keep guns out of the hands of people who may do something like this again. Believing otherwise is irrational.

If you think background checks are something that only some need to do, allowing criminals to buy guns freely, or if you think its OK for those who are mentally ill to have full access to guns and ammunition then you're a small minority and that was really the point of the poll. These are problems we can deal with swiftly that are constitutional and almost all Americans believe to be a good thing, a necessary thing. This is common ground and legislation should fly through Congress for the President to sign.

These are things we can do right now that can seriously impact school security in a positive way!

I don't know anyone who thinks this would be a bad idea AND presents cogent arguments to support their position.
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