Town forests, forestry plans, and town timber cuts

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Town forests, forestry plans, and town timber cuts

Postby timd » Wed May 11, 2011 10:59 am

The town of Atkinson recently had a forestry plan and inventory done for our 140 acre Sawyer town forest. I am looking to spark some discussion on what should be in these plans and would like anyone who cares to critique our plan to look it over and comment on what they think in this thread. The plan is on our web page http://www.atkinsonconservation.org under the "Trails and lands" link on the left. Warning: if anyone has a slow internet connection this forestry plan is an 8.3 megabyte PDF. Maybe Curt could post a link to the Danville forestry plan.

In Atkinson, we have historically had warrant articles which classify each conservation parcel we acquire as town forest under the supervision of the conservation commission. So there is no separate forestry committee as there is in Danville. Which is not to say that we don't have the same battles as you have had in Danville. The "Woodsman spare that tree" versus "Greatest good for the greatest number" arguments have been going on since the days of John Muir and Gifford Pinchot. We have had a shooting range in the Sawyer forest in the past (for police use) but no longer do. We ban hunting in most but not all of our town forests.

Last year we did a timber harvest on most of the Sawyer parcel. We have had a lot of blow downs and damage in the town forests from ice and wind storms over the last three years...about 15% of the trees were damaged. We wanted to harvest the damaged and downed trees while they were still worth something. The original estimate for the cut was $18K but we ended up realizing $27K for the town forestry fund. The extra money came mostly from chipping the damaged stuff.

One of the most valuable things to me in the report is the map on page 6 showing where the major pockets of invasive species are. Because of this we are mounting a campaign to combat oriental bittersweet before the vines take over the forest.
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Re: Town forests, forestry plans, and town timber cuts

Postby curt » Wed May 11, 2011 7:52 pm

Tim,
Thanks for the info!

Perhaps you saw the recent discussion about our town forest:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2772

I took a very quick look at your forestry management plan. It looks similar to ours, also done by Charlie Moreno, in 2001. That plan became a political football. Some people actually said that Charlie wanted us to cut too much!!! Charlie has been the forester for my family woodlots ever since he took over the business from John Ragonese in about 1983. In fact I have a 'to do' to call him about updating my forestry management plans, which are about 25 years old, and to value a huge oak tree that one of my neighbors "accidentally" harvested.

Charlie's plan is not online.

On the path to ending the fights over the forest, and as part of our conservation easement with NH Audubon, we commissioned a stewardship plan by Ellen Snyder, building on Charlie's work:
http://www.townofdanville.org/forestry/ ... p_plan.pdf
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Re: Town forests, forestry plans, and town timber cuts

Postby shawn_oneil » Wed May 11, 2011 9:16 pm

I look forward to the day that the Town of Danville can harvest timber from its Town Forest.
Shawn

ps. How does one "accidentally" harvest a neighbor's tree?
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Re: Town forests, forestry plans, and town timber cuts

Postby timd » Wed May 11, 2011 9:58 pm

Charlie managed a lot of our cuts back in the 80's. We used to have a conservation commission member, Chet Ladd, who was a professional forester, and he did a lot of the work. Chet retired in the early 90's (and has since passed), so our town forests have been neglected and I am trying to get them back on a sustainable 15 year harvest cycle. We like Charlie because he tends to be overly conservative about harvests and undercut.

One thing we are trying to get going, especially given the economy, is a town firewood program. The loggers only pay us $15 a cord for stumpage. With cordwood going for $300/cord, it makes more sense to take less income from the cuts but try to get some free firewood out to taxpayers who heat with wood. But everyone is paranoid about liability issues. The best idea we have come up with is to have the loggers deliver log length grapple loads to our transfer station, which is fenced and gated. Town employees (who we will pay out of the forestry fund) can then cut the firewood to 4' lengths as needed for townfolk to collect in pickup truck loads. We took 148 cords out of the Sawyer forest but will probably only realize half that with our next cut.
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Re: Town forests, forestry plans, and town timber cuts

Postby curt » Thu May 12, 2011 8:25 am

shawn_oneil wrote:
ps. How does one "accidentally" harvest a neighbor's tree?


Good question. I got one story from the wife, and another from the husband. The line is flagged and the tree is at least 5 feet on my side of the line.

9 houses have been built abutting my wood lots in the last 25 years and at least half my abutters have disrespected my property even where the line is marked. The worst ones are children of people who subdivided land next to me and gave lots to their kids.

The thing that is basically benign but makes me laugh is that certain people have pristine yards, 2 acre lots and no tolerance for a brush pile on their own land. They make a point of dumping their grass clippings and other yard waste on my side of the boundary line.
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